tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6817682567561164198.post3401581599328605073..comments2024-02-20T09:54:37.105-06:00Comments on Talking About Ritual Magick: Problems with Goetic Magick and the Black GrimoiresFrater.Barrabbashttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11689013897789072360noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6817682567561164198.post-37058668337594253572017-06-06T20:41:47.131-05:002017-06-06T20:41:47.131-05:00Interesting write up, as Jake explains in his book...Interesting write up, as Jake explains in his book "The Trve Grimoire". The "Pacts" that take place in the GV are not like the so called pacts made with the Devil where one looses their soul. It is more to do with an agreement between the operator and say for example Scirlin. Where offerings are made to Scirlin in exchange for services from both Scirlin and other Entities under Scirlin`s authority. Orion Silverstar 191https://www.blogger.com/profile/12412644986486371664noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6817682567561164198.post-81599721522463621412014-11-13T08:33:24.408-06:002014-11-13T08:33:24.408-06:00First let me say that I very much agree with your ...First let me say that I very much agree with your criticism of Stratton Kent, and I do not need to add anything more. Second, well: I think the Goetic approach seeks a pact which somehow stays on equal terms with the demons, they work according to the payments they get from the sorcerer (non-magus) and the pact is just an employment contract. But Theurgy things are different, they are bound by the angels to do the work, and the magician is never found in symmetrical relationship with demons. This is the traditional teaching. <br />If most presently preferred pacts is because it must be very pure to possess the necessary divine authority over demons by Theurgy, plus this also restricts the ethical possibilities, both the magician and the demons, to satisfy any whim , which is common among sorcerers.swadharmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01081296145602519835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6817682567561164198.post-32631448668494972502013-11-06T18:42:39.257-06:002013-11-06T18:42:39.257-06:00Have you ever written on E A Koetting? I would lo...Have you ever written on E A Koetting? I would love to read it if you have.Draco Dark Matter's Denhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17869882280227101222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6817682567561164198.post-40838273151749487982009-11-18T19:28:49.322-06:002009-11-18T19:28:49.322-06:00You are correct in the sense that a pagan name doe...You are correct in the sense that a pagan name does not a pagan god. It is the context and ritual ethos and forms that ultimatly invites the Spirit to come forth and for example Astaroth will therefore remain a demon within the context of demonology and a goddess within the context of paganism.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com