tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6817682567561164198.post8266185597537475480..comments2024-02-20T09:54:37.105-06:00Comments on Talking About Ritual Magick: Strange Phenomena of MagickFrater.Barrabbashttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11689013897789072360noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6817682567561164198.post-68946960179775494782016-11-30T08:33:39.368-06:002016-11-30T08:33:39.368-06:00This is a wonderful article, and it's refreshi...This is a wonderful article, and it's refreshing to see someone talk about crystals in magick from a serious point of view, and also a point of view of experience.<br /><br />I have to point out that the qualities you talk about in the beginning, of lines of force that can be stored, or information or power, and then re-entered or otherwise drawn upon, is pretty much exactly what my New Age teachers and authors taught in the 80s and 90s. You discovered this independent, but it really does not vary from good New Age crystal teachings in its essence. The problem is that the term "New Age" has become both corrupt meaning and anathematized by non-New Age metaphysicians. The magickal orthodoxy will not tolerate what has become reflexive heresy.<br /><br />Nonetheless, again this is an excellent article: useful, and especially so because it is built on genuine experience. Thank you.CuriousWitchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06731801258325526536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6817682567561164198.post-49250544790298512722016-10-22T23:35:13.622-05:002016-10-22T23:35:13.622-05:00Care Frater,
I found myself wrinkling my nose, wh...Care Frater,<br /><br />I found myself wrinkling my nose, which I almost never do, while reading your post. I think it's because I resist putting magical theory into buckets and, following your links, I also don't find it to be an issue of science vs magic. In fact, I think of them more closely related than most, but because of one specific point: observation. I joke to students when they ask questions that "well, after all, it's your Universe" but it's not really a joke, as they find out. Our Universes are what we observe, and what we create. I mean that quite directly. Therefore magic, as far as my experience goes, is really about "causing change in conformity with will" as someone would have said, but I would update to "the conscience act of disentangling and enhancing probability curves in my Universe". There are items in the realm of possibility always (like money) and there are things that probability would dictate are impossible (manifesting snow in Death Valley). The trick is sorting that all out, and improving manifestation in our Universe through Magic; ie the focused concentration of will that bends probability to observation. Nothing exists until you observe it, and the entire Universe (at least mine) runs entirely on probability. So what happens when you see unrelated phenomena or out of sequence events? Wouldn't that be part of manifesting the objective of your operation in your Universe by bending probability to your will? Has it been proved time is an arrow? Not yet, so these phenomena are just part of the package. So, crudely, if it's money I wish to manifest, I'm bending probabilities by my Magic coupled with my will while shaping my Universe to cause synchronicities involving money opportunities that I can observe. That process can involve all sorts of weird stuff along the way, and should if I'm actually working Magic. Hope that gives you a few thoughts. <br /><br />Thanks again for your posts,<br />M:.C:.O:.skyman123https://www.blogger.com/profile/11728306904461231570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6817682567561164198.post-52113459848285516082016-10-02T05:54:49.701-05:002016-10-02T05:54:49.701-05:00Years ago, I liked reading Peter J. Carroll's ...Years ago, I liked reading Peter J. Carroll's (author of Liber Kaos) and his explanation was a mathematical formula of how magic would occur. It was based on its likeliness to happen: Where {{\rm{P}}_{{\rm{\Psi }}}} means the probability of accomplishing something with magic; and P equals the probability of the events natural occurrence, and Ψ equals the amount of magic applied to the situation. Nectanebushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02462430940680234727noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6817682567561164198.post-47011673296453357932016-10-01T15:55:44.304-05:002016-10-01T15:55:44.304-05:00I forgot to add on the fact that doing the same ri...I forgot to add on the fact that doing the same ritual can produce/manifest different results.<br /><br />I think this has alot to do with election timings. It's one thing to perform a Jupiter money ritual when Jupiter is either in Sagittarius or Pisces, and another thing to perform it when it's in Gemini and Virgo. Ok Jupiter moves too slow for this example. Let's take Mercury business rituals. Even if one were to perform them with Mercury in Gemini and Virgo, they would still have to take into account the phase of the Moon; good and bad aspects with other planets, especially those considered to be malefic in nature; whether or not Mercury is retrograde; whether or not the ritual was performed in the day and hour of Mercury - it could have been done in a different day in the hour of Mercury, or on a Wednesday in another planetary hour; and so on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6817682567561164198.post-81170632941041622202016-10-01T15:07:46.905-05:002016-10-01T15:07:46.905-05:00Beautiful article!
It has happened to me to obse...Beautiful article! <br /><br />It has happened to me to observe the manifesting of results even before I had performed the specific ritual in order to achieve those results. And I'm just in my second year of practicing, so I imagine this can happen more often to people with years and years of working magick under their belt, such as yourself and others like you. <br /><br />I noticed this causality collapse as you call it, happening before I had performed rituals on and for myself, in a way that would change either my personality or my physical body. It didn't happen before rituals that would change outside circumstances in my favour, like acquiring money for instance. So I guess I could easily say that my mind already began working on the issue from the moment I decided to fix it. But this does not mean I don't accept your concept of causality collapse, not do I disagree with it. I believe it to be possible to happen before any sort of ritual. <br /><br />As for the Proccess you talk about and roughly compare to an egregore, I also believe it to be true. As i commented in Scott Stenwick's Part IV of his magick model recent articles, I believe egregores to be part of the world around and to influence it.<br /><br />Thank you!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com